Bosch Sensortec Community

    cancel
    Showing results for 
    Search instead for 
    Did you mean: 
    SOLVED

    BME680: IAQ accuracy definition

    o_o
    Contributor

    Re: BME680: IAQ accuracy definition


    @ljh95 wrote:

    1. Is the calibrating algorithm triggered not just by the deviation in IAQ but also it has to satisfy accumulation of certain amount of data(which is pretty much same as duration of its running time since it has first turned on) if the whole state is reseted ?


    The calibrating algorithm is always active and monitoring the baseline, as well as the amplitude of the signal. If you delete the state, it will take the same amount of time to get back to 3/3 in the same conditions.


    @ljh95 wrote:

    2. In order to make new device to reach accuracy 3 , would it be fine to save the state of one device which has already reached accuracy of 3. And then load this to the newly reseted device? 


    No. Robot Sad. Each device is unique and mix-match of state file will only increase the amount of time to calibrate, and decrease the accuracy before it calibrates.

    JohnRob
    Established Member

    Re: BME680: IAQ accuracy definition

    I've been wondering about the meaning of the IAQ number and the raw resistance.

    It appears to me the BME680 gas sensor is a device that generally reacts to VOC's.  I'm guessing the sensor is not stable (most likely the zero offset but not sure) and needs to be exposed to different environments to get a sense of high and low VOC exposure.

    If I'm correct a sensor exposed to a constant VOC environment would never leave the [1] accuracy.

    When I first got my sensor running I let it run for 3 to 4 days.  I had not yet gotted the BSEC code working.   When I got the BSEC code working (but no state saving) I performed the following:

    1. Ran the sensor for about 4 hour, still at accuracy [1].
    2. Put some alcohol on a paper towel (wet probably a 1 inch circle).  Placed the paper towel ~ 6inches from the BME680.  The IAQ spiked up and when it came back down (removel of the towel) the accuracy was [2]

    So it seems the IAQ algorithm takes what is generally expected from the VOC sensor,  factors in the min and max VOC exposure and tries to create some calibration coefficients.

    For those who know more about this sensor than us mere mortals, is there a way to simulate some high and low VOC conditions (in the home) to accelerate the calibration procedure?  And perhaps increase the accuracy.

    I was thinking about a near 100% helium for the "clean air" point.    I thought about a container with 100% ethanol (sensor would be in the vapor, not liquid) but don't know off hand how to extimeat the concentration, and I'm concerned such a high VOC level might shift the sensor output and or damage the sensor.

    Having said all this, I realize the VOC sensor is what I would call a "ballpark" sensor, but I'm a curious fellow 🙂 and am interested what goes into the IAQ reading.

     

    o_o
    Contributor

    Re: BME680: IAQ accuracy definition

    You are correct. If you power on the device and let BSEC run forever in a stable environment, Accuracy indicator should hover around ~1. But also the algo would crank up the sensitivity to adjust to this near constant environment.

    Stimulating the sensor with pure ethanol, assuming it doesn't catch fire (the hot plate does heat to >>300 Celsius) or with pure Helium is not a good idea. In fact, stimulating the sensor with anything other than was it is expected to see as real output would most likely have a negative impact on the accuracy.

    If you do want to accelerate the calibration:
    Clean air -> Bring it outdoors for 1h
    Bad air -> Bring it into the bathroom, or in a crowded meeting room
    kgoveas
    Community Moderator

    Re: BME680: IAQ accuracy definition


    @JohnRob wrote:

     

    For those who know more about this sensor than us mere mortals, is there a way to simulate some high and low VOC conditions (in the home) to accelerate the calibration procedure?  And perhaps increase the accuracy.

     


    Hi JohnRob,

    Firstly, HAHHAHAHAHHA - we are all mere mortals.

    Secondly,  you can also use a white board marker to trigger the the IAQ accuracy 2 state. I will check with our experts and get back to you for how one can have a desk based setup to completely calibrate the sensor.

    Regards,
    kgoveas

    Tocs
    Occasional Visitor

    Re: BME680: IAQ accuracy definition

    Sorry to revive this old post but it is the best info I have found on this topic so far.

    I have been using the slightly newer BME688 and have this same calibration issue.

    If I turn the sensor on in the office I'm in, it normally sits just above 50 IAQ. However if I turn the sensor on outside for 10mins it gets a baseline of good air quality, so when I bring it back inside it goes up towards 150 IAQ. 

    It seems the calibration depends on the extremes that the sensor sees to determined the IAQ value, it can't tell if the air is bad if it hasn't seen other quality levels. 

    Is there a way to load a profile of captured data as the baseline calibration, so it knows what is good and bad when it loads, so it doesn't need to be shown the extremes each time it is restarted?

    "I will check with our experts and get back to you" I'm hoping 3.5 years is enough time to get more information hahaha.

    Thank you for your help.

    Icon--AD-black-48x48Icon--address-consumer-data-black-48x48Icon--appointment-black-48x48Icon--back-left-black-48x48Icon--calendar-black-48x48Icon--center-alignedIcon--Checkbox-checkIcon--clock-black-48x48Icon--close-black-48x48Icon--compare-black-48x48Icon--confirmation-black-48x48Icon--dealer-details-black-48x48Icon--delete-black-48x48Icon--delivery-black-48x48Icon--down-black-48x48Icon--download-black-48x48Ic-OverlayAlertIcon--externallink-black-48x48Icon-Filledforward-right_adjustedIcon--grid-view-black-48x48IC_gd_Check-Circle170821_Icons_Community170823_Bosch_Icons170823_Bosch_Icons170821_Icons_CommunityIC-logout170821_Icons_Community170825_Bosch_Icons170821_Icons_CommunityIC-shopping-cart2170821_Icons_CommunityIC-upIC_UserIcon--imageIcon--info-i-black-48x48Icon--left-alignedIcon--Less-minimize-black-48x48Icon-FilledIcon--List-Check-grennIcon--List-Check-blackIcon--List-Cross-blackIcon--list-view-mobile-black-48x48Icon--list-view-black-48x48Icon--More-Maximize-black-48x48Icon--my-product-black-48x48Icon--newsletter-black-48x48Icon--payment-black-48x48Icon--print-black-48x48Icon--promotion-black-48x48Icon--registration-black-48x48Icon--Reset-black-48x48Icon--right-alignedshare-circle1Icon--share-black-48x48Icon--shopping-bag-black-48x48Icon-shopping-cartIcon--start-play-black-48x48Icon--store-locator-black-48x48Ic-OverlayAlertIcon--summary-black-48x48tumblrIcon-FilledvineIc-OverlayAlertwhishlist