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    BMP280 Pressure offset/calibration

    BMP280 Pressure offset/calibration

    Jussi
    Member

    Hi,

    I just received a a patch of custom PCBs with BMP280 in them. 1 out of the 5 boards I have tested so far is giving wrong pressure values. I am using drivers from zephyr project and using I2C communication. It looks like the sensor follows the same curve as the other ones, but it just reports ~10hPa too low values

    Jussi_0-1610525124612.png

    This lead me to wonder about BMP280 self test. I can see that Bosch drivers used to have some non-datasheet-documented code for self testing the sensor, but it has been removed

    Removed the self-test API as it was no longer valid

    So I have two questions:

    Any idea why the one sensor is reporting wrong values and is there a way to fix the in-board calibration data so that I get correct results from this sensor?

    Is there a way to execute self-test for the sensor so that we can detect such faulty sensors in production tests?

     

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    FAE_CA1
    Community Moderator
    Community Moderator

    Hi,

    Thanks for your inquiry.

    Since you have got 4 out of 5 BMP280 working properly, it means that your FW has no problem. The typical (1-sigma) absolute accuracy of BMP280 is +/-1hPa from 300 ~ 1100hPa under the temperature 0 ~ 65C. The min/max is +/-3hPa because of 3-sigma. 1 out of 5 BMP280 has about ~10hPa offset which means that this part is a failure part. We need to get it back for failure analysis to find out the root cause.

    Regarding BMP280 self test, you can find the example on the Github at https://github.com/BoschSensortec/BMP280_driver/commit/e1979b5715d772be3f79413f1ab8c986bdd912c1#diff....

    Thanks.

    Hi,

    Thanks for reply. One of the working sensors also started to report 10mBar too low values. -> I made a test where I power cycle the sensor many times and read the result. This is what it looks like:

    00> [00:00:01.032,104] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: BMP280 temperature: 20.690000
    00> [00:00:01.032,135] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: Return pressure (kPa): 99.335550

    00> [00:00:01.031,829] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: BMP280 temperature: 20.610000
    00> [00:00:01.031,860] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: Return pressure (kPa): 99.339195

    00> [00:00:01.031,951] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: BMP280 temperature: 20.710000
    00> [00:00:01.031,982] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: Return pressure (kPa): 99.332992

    00> [00:00:01.031,982] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: BMP280 temperature: -60.-630000
    00> [00:00:01.032,012] <wrn> bmp280: BMP280 temp: -60.-630000, HDC2080 temp: 20.98
    00> [00:00:01.032,012] <wrn> bmp280: Maybe invalid pressure. new: 86.615367, old: 0.000000
    00> [00:00:01.084,655] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: Return pressure (kPa): 99.335949

    00> [00:00:01.031,982] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: BMP280 temperature: 21.230000
    00> [00:00:01.032,012] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: Return pressure (kPa): 100.54249

    If we believe the other sensors in the room 1005mBar is the correct pressure. So first we get 4 times the wrong pressure and after fifth boot we get a bit higher temperature and correct pressure. Results remains correct as long as BMP is not power cycled.

    The invalid 4th reading is this case: https://community.bosch-sensortec.com/t5/MEMS-sensors-forum/BMP280-MSB-temperature-is-sometimes-corr... and because I have never found how to get rid of that, I just worked around it by reading the BMP again if temperature is rubbish.

    In this case it is not possible though because difference is so small that it is hard to interpret as invalid.

    Maybe this is somekind of weird electrical interference during sensor bootup or something. Does not feel like SW bug to me. But this sensor is anyway driving me nuts.

     

    And ok, so in practice there is no self test in BMP280, you have to build that externally.

    Minhwan
    Community Moderator
    Community Moderator

    Hello Jucci, 

     

    Could you please share your register configuration with me? 

    I mean BMP280 setting for your test. 

    Thank you. 

    Hi. Here is a SW trace from I2C communication. I have tried to decode the configuration

    // First at sensor init
    00> [00:00:00.046,813] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xd0
    00> [00:00:00.046,844] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 58                                               |X                
    00> [00:00:00.049,468] <wrn> BME280: Read 24 bytes from 0x88
    00> [00:00:00.049,499] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 43 6b 8d 64 32 00 20 95  11 d6 d0 0b a7 1b d7 ff |Ck.d2. . ........
    00> f9 ff 8c 3c f8 c6 70 17                          |...<..p.         
    00> [00:00:00.049,499] <wrn> BME280: Write 0x55 to 0xf4
    // 0x55
    // 0101 0101
    // 010- ---- temp oversampling - 2X
    // ---1 01-- press oversampling - 16X
    // ---- --01 power mode - Forced mode
    
    // 00> [00:00:00.049,896] <wrn> BME280: Write 0xa8 to 0xf5
    // 0xA8
    // 1010 1000
    // 101- ---- inactive time, not used in force mode
    // ---0 10-- filter 2
    // ---- --00 SPI disabled
    
    // Then when measurement is made
    00> [00:00:18.111,206] <wrn> BME280: Write 0x55 to 0xf4
    00> [00:00:18.115,264] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.115,264] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.118,927] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.118,927] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.122,589] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.122,589] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.126,251] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.126,281] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.129,974] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.129,974] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.134,338] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.134,338] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.138,000] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.138,031] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.141,662] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.141,662] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.145,324] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.145,324] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.148,986] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.148,986] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 04                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.149,993] <wrn> BME280: Read 6 bytes from 0xf7
    00> [00:00:18.150,024] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 4d 07 70 79 fe 80                                |M.py..           
    00> [00:00:18.150,054] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: BMP280 temperature: 18.520000
    00> [00:00:18.150,115] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: Return pressure (kPa): 100.340863
    
    
    // The sequence and values above were identical through 5 boots, after 6th boot:
    00> [00:00:00.047,119] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xd0
    00> [00:00:00.047,180] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 58                                               |X                
    00> [00:00:00.049,835] <wrn> BME280: Read 24 bytes from 0x88
    00> [00:00:00.049,835] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 43 6b 8d 64 32 00 20 95  11 d6 d0 0b a7 1b d7 ff |Ck.d2. . ........
    00> f9 ff 8c 3c f8 c6 70 07                          |...<..p.         
    00> [00:00:00.049,865] <wrn> BME280: Write 0x55 to 0xf4
    00> [00:00:00.050,262] <wrn> BME280: Write 0xa8 to 0xf5
    
    // Measurement starts
    00> [00:00:18.190,093] <wrn> BME280: Write 0x55 to 0xf4
    00> [00:00:18.194,122] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.194,122] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.197,784] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.197,784] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.201,446] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.201,446] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.205,108] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.205,108] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.208,801] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.208,831] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.213,134] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.213,134] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.216,796] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.216,827] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.220,489] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.220,489] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.224,151] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.224,151] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.227,813] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.227,813] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 04                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.228,820] <wrn> BME280: Read 6 bytes from 0xf7
    00> [00:00:18.228,851] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 4d 1e 40 3a 46 80                                |M.@:F.           
    00> [00:00:18.228,881] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: BMP280 temperature: -61.-550000
    // Code notices that result is rubbish, and tries to read it again
    00> [00:00:18.228,912] <wrn> bmp280: BMP280 temp: -61.-550000, HDC2080 temp: 17.81
    00> [00:00:18.228,912] <wrn> bmp280: Maybe invalid pressure. new: 86.693117, old: 0.000000
    00> [00:00:18.239,013] <wrn> BME280: Write 0x55 to 0xf4
    00> [00:00:18.245,574] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.245,574] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.249,237] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.249,237] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.252,899] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.252,899] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.256,561] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.256,561] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.260,223] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.260,253] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.263,916] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.263,916] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.267,578] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.267,608] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.271,270] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.271,270] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 0c                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.278,015] <wrn> BME280: Read 1 bytes from 0xf3
    00> [00:00:18.278,045] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 04                                               |.                
    00> [00:00:18.279,052] <wrn> BME280: Read 6 bytes from 0xf7
    00> [00:00:18.279,052] <wrn> BME280: Result
    00> 4d 21 50 7a 55 80                                |M!PzU.           
    // Too low pressure
    00> [00:00:18.279,113] <dbg> bmp280.late_bmp280_measurement: Return pressure (kPa): 99.141820

    It is also interesting that calibration parameters are different when pressure drops 10mBar

    43 6b 8d 64 32 00 20 95 11 d6 d0 0b a7 1b d7 ff f9 ff 8c 3c f8 c6 70 17

    43 6b 8d 64 32 00 20 95 11 d6 d0 0b a7 1b d7 ff f9 ff 8c 3c f8 c6 70 07

    I understood from datasheet that these should be constant

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