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    BSEC + DevKit + BME688: Odd Gas Resistance Values

    BSEC + DevKit + BME688: Odd Gas Resistance Values

    S_Brohl
    Established Member

    Hello,

    I'm noticing in my bmeraw files as well as my data output from a single BME688 sensor that while running different heater profiles with a duty cycle of 1:0  that I am seeing every so often the gas resistance value: 102400000.000000 on step index zero (and sometimes index 1). I don't believe this is normal as the previous values before it are much smaller. Is there any explaination for why this might be happening?

    I have tried five different 8-sensor development kits and two seperate breakout boards with the BME688 and I still see this value output in my data when running with a duty cycle of 1:0. I am assuming this might be due to the profile transitioning so quickly from the last step index temperature back to the first, but I've also tested this using the default config that comes with the dev kits and see the same thing.

    All of these sensors have undergone a 72hr burn-in period, but I am still wondering, do I need to allow the sensors to run 5 minutes before I can assume I am receiving genuine data?

    Any insight into this anomaly would be greatly appreciated!

    Also, here is some data so you can see what I am talking about:

    Sensor 0:

    Time since power-onRTC Time in SecondsTempPressureRel. HumidityGas ResistanceHP Step IndexScanning enabledHeater ProfileDuty Cycle
    1160091.65E+0929.26295999.916724.4637310240000001heater_301duty_1
    1218041.65E+0928.66775999.90624.446728407440811heater_301duty_1
    1220841.65E+0928.90533999.854424.49614475174021heater_301duty_1
    1239801.65E+0929.55556999.916924.549414136329.2531heater_301duty_1
    1259401.65E+0929.71061999.934724.453993925251.541heater_301duty_1
    1279001.65E+0929.84066999.917424.447563477817.7551heater_301duty_1
    1281801.65E+0929.98571999.888224.35675383880.031361heater_301duty_1
    1301401.65E+0930.48339999.88824.24382520589.718871heater_301duty_1
    1321001.65E+0930.63845999.901524.10568579841.437581heater_301duty_1
    1339321.65E+0930.75849999.907123.84773614277.12590heater_301duty_1
    1343821.65E+0930.16327999.943723.7354210240000001heater_301duty_1
    1401141.65E+0929.51054999.956123.768169453444011heater_301duty_1
    1403941.65E+0929.76313999.934723.79697516031521heater_301duty_1
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    1443141.65E+0930.53841999.897323.863714074608.2541heater_301duty_1
    1462741.65E+0930.65095999.900123.674853757798.2551heater_301duty_1
    1465541.65E+0930.791999.900123.73821406268.593861heater_301duty_1
    1483741.65E+0931.29619999.911923.57239548620.437571heater_301duty_1
    1503341.65E+0931.48126999.920923.38349603417.812581heater_301duty_1
    1523061.65E+0931.6013999.922523.19007642610.62590heater_301duty_1
    1527501.65E+0930.99358999.892523.2211110240000001heater_301duty_1
    1584521.65E+0930.28081999.898723.1070110240000011heater_301duty_1
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    1646121.65E+0931.44874999.926323.035893902810.7551heater_301duty_1
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    1707261.65E+0932.3966999.907122.66266661926.312590heater_301duty_1
    1710281.65E+0931.73385999.929722.4628510240000001heater_301duty_1
    1768241.65E+0931.04359999.877322.5153210240000011heater_301duty_1
    1771061.65E+0931.31369999.905822.55525734686.521heater_301duty_1
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    1831501.65E+0932.37159999.928322.44376428451.87561heater_301duty_1
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    1871061.65E+0933.02935999.962622.16148641403.062581heater_301duty_1
    1890921.65E+0933.14439999.939121.9686678370.312590heater_301duty_1
    1895461.65E+0932.40911999.921621.9551310240000001heater_301duty_1
    1952271.65E+0931.80138999.928121.971610240000011heater_301duty_1
    1953681.65E+0932.07148999.932321.921545734686.521heater_301duty_1
    1973281.65E+0932.72173999.935622.08744879094.531heater_301duty_1
    1993001.65E+0932.84678999.901222.00623439602941heater_301duty_1
    2012611.65E+0932.95432999.93121.876394245659.551heater_301duty_1
    2015411.65E+0933.09938999.923121.87577426844.531361heater_301duty_1
    2035631.65E+0933.60708999.944621.76272578367.687571heater_301duty_1
    2053871.65E+0933.76964999.969821.67355652437.062581heater_301duty_1
    2073721.65E+0933.88219999.970921.45971690026.937590heater_301duty_1
    2078121.65E+0933.25694999.944321.3491610240000001heater_301duty_1
    2134531.65E+0932.50665999.922921.456510240000011heater_301duty_1
    2137571.65E+0932.77175999.894821.405985914801.521heater_301duty_1
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    2196401.65E+0933.6621999.987521.392194142604.2551heater_301duty_1
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    2261541.65E+0933.97222999.98320.8453210240000001heater_301duty_1
    2318011.65E+0933.1744999.90620.9657110240000011heater_301duty_1
    2320811.65E+0933.43201999.902921.01426056931.521heater_301duty_1
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    2379031.65E+0934.35738999.964120.918054136329.2551heater_301duty_1
    2381841.65E+0934.50244999.92120.9014437233.12561heater_301duty_1
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    2421031.65E+0935.1427999.944620.63906673684.187581heater_301duty_1
    2440881.65E+0935.25275999.922920.48881709386.937590heater_301duty_1
    2445321.65E+0934.61999999.940620.3898910240000001heater_301duty_1
    2501511.65E+0933.84967999.933420.5543710240000011heater_301duty_1
    2504451.65E+0934.11728999.934720.582296114573.521heater_301duty_1
    2524331.65E+0934.77505999.938620.71984518481031heater_301duty_1
    2544361.65E+0934.9051999.967120.591944588070.541heater_301duty_1
    2562571.65E+0935.00264999.959920.488184174267.551heater_301duty_1
    2565371.65E+0935.1452999.906920.49226437513.343861heater_301duty_1
    2584961.65E+0935.65041999.952520.36266604486.437571heater_301duty_1
    2604571.65E+0935.79798999.955920.22542669718.7581heater_301duty_1
    2624491.65E+0935.90052999.958220.05914708650.590heater_301duty_1
    2628861.65E+0935.27526999.964419.9770910240000001heater_301duty_1
    2685441.65E+0934.45492999.939120.1230210240000011heater_301duty_1
    2688231.65E+0934.71753999.922620.13989612142721heater_301duty_1
    2708101.65E+0935.42782999.948820.20665511680231heater_301duty_1
    2727701.65E+0935.54537999.96820.109534706693.541heater_301duty_1
    2747291.65E+0935.6179999.985819.967684152052.7551heater_301duty_1
    2750101.65E+0935.76296999.938120.03456437793.937561heater_301duty_1
    2769691.65E+0936.25067999.979919.90888595521.937571heater_301duty_1
    2787901.65E+0936.41824999.991319.74168667753.581heater_301duty_1
    2807751.65E+0936.53079999.98219.57631718344.437590heater_301duty_1
    2812021.65E+0935.88802999.965519.473110240000001heater_301duty_1
    2869111.65E+0935.05517999.947819.6552110240000011heater_301duty_1
    2871901.65E+0935.31527999.897619.708146152459.521heater_301duty_1
    2891511.65E+0936.01057999.972519.762745112012.531heater_301duty_1
    2911111.65E+0936.13062999.96819.681544580374.541heater_301duty_1
    2930721.65E+0936.22316999.990419.593394111417.7551heater_301duty_1
    2933511.65E+0936.36572999.972819.59197438637.812561heater_301duty_1
    2953111.65E+0936.85343999.971619.49745589861.7571heater_301duty_1
    2972711.65E+0936.98349999.955419.32804670376.437581heater_301duty_1
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    3175741.65E+0937.353651000.00716.48828759643.937590heater_301duty_1
    3180131.65E+0936.690861000.02716.3094910240000001heater_301duty_1
    3236501.65E+0935.84049999.945916.2079710240000011heater_301duty_1
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    3297301.65E+0936.94597999.982816.00764460742451heater_301duty_1
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    3363271.65E+0937.148561000.01115.4854210240000001heater_301duty_1
    3419461.65E+0936.26318999.990815.5713610240000011heater_301duty_1
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    3442101.65E+0937.20608999.993915.63031579554331heater_301duty_1
    3461821.65E+0937.311131000.01215.539425204574.541heater_301duty_1
    3481821.65E+0937.373661000.00615.461564710753.551heater_301duty_1
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    3546831.65E+0937.551241000.00615.0254310240000001heater_301duty_1
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    3730101.65E+0937.946411000.08214.691866648338801heater_301duty_1
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    3851791.65E+0938.294071000.0614.69895195121.953161heater_301duty_1
    3871391.65E+0938.779291000.09114.57652263713.62571heater_301duty_1
    3890981.65E+0938.904341000.08714.45144271258.281381heater_301duty_1
    3909431.65E+0938.976881000.08614.28858272557.906390heater_301duty_1

     

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    S_Brohl
    Established Member

    Hi Robin,

    Thank you for your reply! I actually am using the official code from the Bosch GitHub repository on my ESP8266 for the single sensor kit, and for my 8 sensor devkits I am using the provided software for those.

    I'm just wondering if there is any insight from BST on what this issue could be that I'm observing.

    Single Sensor Adafruit Board:

    TimeTempPressureHumidityResistance0Resistance1Resistance2Resistance3Resistance4Resistance5Resistance6Resistance7Resistance8Resistance9
    1.65E+0928.4499475.0241.8638550588230890.6254473.2213611518164081656623213555.8454102603951.6698499.3
    1.65E+0928.8199473.2537.441.02E+08576414.3594484.8670788253682834595793480977673684.2769490.9829821.7
    1.65E+0928.999472.4436.961.02E+08680398.7694237.3841932267202635675096556219.4753356.6830831.6886964.1
    1.65E+0928.9599470.38371.02E+08716835.8730645.8906194771702416087312581818.2785426.6866694.9906395.3
    1.65E+0928.9799470.1136.441.02E+08741760.3760490.2953667175992586431404602884.9807252.7885813.1943996.3
    1.65E+092999470.336.321.02E+08758378.1782725982843478448656642611627835.7832858.9909413.9961954
    1.65E+0929.0299471.7136.421.02E+08777820801565.61019539580828816846636639600.3850498.3932392.4969467.4
    1.65E+0929.0199469.936.451.02E+08791344.7825307.31047905384128377081911653061.3865595.9949246.8996351.3
    1.65E+0929.0299470.236.441.02E+08803925.4828814.31071550083998977142110651814.1869454.4944649.4990568.3
    1.65E+0929.0199468.2636.191.02E+08813990.4831337.51070499885780107275311658732.7879536.2961276.71015621
    1.65E+0929.0199469.4836.661.02E+08820348.5840032.81099597387079467398510676354883520.39619541018652
    1.65E+0929.0199470.636.651.02E+08831337.5852090.71095187287920587433757679045.1882378.3963311.41008122
    1.65E+0929.0199468.3837.341.02E+08814476.1837456.61067361685045427114199661285.1877839.7953889.11007378
    1.65E+0928.9999470.9436.811.02E+08818872.4841586.21094090287638417515597667753.5881239.3970846.21014866
    1.65E+0928.9999467.9536.811.02E+08825307.3849968.91107401188347267464237672357.2893932.8972921.61026309
    1.65E+0928.9999466.936.741.02E+08839516.3860142.81122191889873837572915686557.2903994.7983433.41026309

     

    8 Sensor DevKit - Brand New - Sensor 1
    Resistances in log10 format*

    TimeTempPRHR0R1R2R3R4R5R6R7R8R9
    1.65E+0927.65259994.662243.399355.5476033.7547193.7547193.8136263.883043.9534563.7547194.0995484.382774.540066
    1.65E+0929.27546994.641836.238895.9411874.3237354.4016035.107214.9739114.9064964.3048474.637834.7566714.822441
    1.65E+0930.34981994.692834.216346.3731864.5555164.6247655.4098725.2158125.1261854.4954874.8289144.8987694.937977
    1.65E+0931.29777994.729732.470656.5465944.6522134.7312725.5257155.3405185.2054794.5707784.9102054.9755915.008566
    1.65E+0932.14968994.698431.370256.6497544.7109234.7814895.6013825.3657635.2429964.6129164.9643515.0276675.054516
    1.65E+0932.99401994.722729.632516.7188764.7418164.8120835.638775.4030595.2719954.6360655.0026385.0556725.078842
    1.65E+0933.79791994.735328.59886.7784164.7654794.8389835.673645.4268745.3018794.6517565.0190745.0806775.103642
    1.65E+0934.34395994.74127.410946.8362954.7936594.8598515.6996075.4567815.3336064.680135.0450985.0985035.120774
    1.65E+0935.00123994.712226.828786.8662124.8003564.8661625.7102485.4597055.3311454.68385.0536515.1078625.128915
    1.65E+0935.49925994.70625.726056.8709134.8074854.8725665.719825.4693455.3394054.6889925.0612035.1150985.136863
    1.65E+0936.10093994.773625.266766.8945854.815734.8809975.7309755.4780555.3495294.6944985.068595.1224585.141421
    1.65E+0936.48013994.759624.745656.9437414.8251554.886845.740325.4932365.3687274.7018645.0761055.1268665.140013

     

    8 Sensor DevKit - Old/Current kit - Sensor 1
    Resistances in log10 format*

    TimeTempPRHR0R1R2R3R4R5R6R7R8R9
    1.65E+0927.49731994.447644.394495.3992143.884913.9527254.5002914.51574.5323693.9763624.5640114.8915725.074893
    1.65E+0929.02353994.432136.599936.8871635.0026385.028215.8577065.8145395.7829284.9809165.1698175.2878315.360479
    1.65E+0929.90529994.433434.274327.3847955.2715195.2932966.2070146.1474246.1049095.2158125.3622335.4330385.479204
    1.65E+0930.77458994.470332.798147.5795655.3897485.3985776.349796.2900376.2422175.3249175.44675.5061015.541805
    1.65E+0931.56893994.482731.598027.7147335.4637575.4753866.4533956.3865346.3337215.394145.4968165.5494025.591088
    1.65E+0932.22091994.471931.040427.8450885.503665.5139246.5314636.4418056.3838315.4333835.5373975.5910885.618483
    1.65E+0932.89288994.450230.352537.8419685.5261435.5360846.5545046.4690336.4161845.4560535.5566765.6150615.644344
    1.65E+0933.61231994.486128.575677.8901375.5571355.576696.5966866.5171036.4616045.4818985.5933275.6390475.667384
    1.65E+0934.11192994.465327.639957.9653755.5822465.5938266.6252536.5516626.4897355.502045.609335.6519845.677559
    1.65E+0934.65649994.491526.647187.9456375.5933275.6036756.6402736.5663536.5152765.5130945.6198065.6641435.68922
    1.65E+0935.22356994.477725.758037.9704525.6075235.6192776.662366.5833826.5266245.5261435.6283735.6763495.702163
    1.65E+0935.62075994.46625.175937.9817415.6090725.6190126.662366.5889026.5355385.5240115.638775.6836575.709922
    1.65E+0935.98298994.460824.560517.9992455.6270235.638776.6871776.6091156.5468745.5413625.6463125.6889095.710575
    1.65E+0936.45762994.457223.960728.0097915.6319025.641276.6898946.6117096.5494025.5449175.6480065.6942255.71749
    1.65E+0936.80986994.455623.480948.01035.6310855.6426656.693026.6169446.5525135.5512095.6548485.7021635.730975
    1.65E+0937.05718994.416123.254658.01035.6382175.6531286.7013366.6276086.567825.5553035.6559995.707325.728585
    1.65E+0937.4269994.451522.899478.01035.6421065.6537016.706166.6255886.5675265.564545.6638495.7079695.73545
    1.65E+0937.74416994.436522.620338.01035.6465945.6539876.7089996.6259246.5672335.555765.6603435.7044115.728926
    1.65E+0938.03395994.496722.545938.01035.6482895.6606346.7041436.6279456.564895.555765.6562885.7002445.728585
    1.65E+0938.31625994.497822.259138.01035.6426655.6494236.6977526.6235786.5599555.5539345.6548485.7053795.734758
    1.65E+0938.61852994.465821.768068.01035.6474415.65866.7085926.6309946.5701785.5589745.6641435.7099225.733035
    1.65E+0938.76342994.456221.293548.01035.6516995.6603436.7118566.6323576.5704745.5636075.6635565.7079695.736489
    1.65E+0939.01324994.457821.116248.01035.6508445.6609256.7143216.6350946.5743365.5612855.6650245.7118845.738923
    1.65E+0939.27555994.453220.834838.01035.6525565.6600526.7130876.6299766.5695885.5612855.6664985.7076445.736489
    1.65E+0939.38547994.404921.036678.01035.646035.659186.7110386.6282836.5654755.5589745.66185.7060255.732347

     

    1.02E+08 is equal to 8.0103 in Log10 format. So on both sensors I am seeing these same values. I see the same values with the new kit too, but not as observably prevalent as I do between these two.

    I'm begininning to think these sensors have gone bad now that I have this new kit which is not showing this same behavior.  Any thoughts from BST on this?

     

    BSTRobin
    Community Moderator
    Community Moderator

    Hi S_Brohl,

    We see the first test using heater_301, the second test using other profiles?
    In the second test, did the same value appear in 'R0 or R1' of Brand New? We didn't see it in the table from yours

    We need more information about comparative verification. Such as same heater profiles, different sensors and different boards or different heater profiles and same boards, etc.
    And what the above mentioned, Did it work well before? when and what cause it.
    After that, we can judge if there is something wrong with the sensors.

    BSTRobin
    Community Moderator
    Community Moderator

    Hi S_Brohl,

    Could you help give further feedback? Thanks.

    S_Brohl
    Established Member

    Hi Robin,

    I reached out to a contact within BST (Florian) and he arranged some engineers (Mary and Muhammad) to take a look into this anomaly with me.

    Based on their observations they believe this saturation may be caused by a number of reasons such as direct contamination, topics like sensor aging, heater profile settings, individual sensor history, specimen composition and concentration.

    However, these sensors/devkits were not that old (maybe 3-4 months old), and I was using the default profile. But they assured me this was something they have seen before and it may also just be the calibration of the sensor and it's sensitivity to something in the background air composition.

    I performed a few additional tests after that meeting to determine if this may have been saturation due to something in the background air composition. So I exposed the sensors to some smoke from incense, as well as coffee, and I still saw these saturated values.

    At that point I decided to replace the devkits in my setup with new ones as well as a new single sensor. It appears the saturated values still do appear occassionally, but not as much as with what I was seeing in the data I provided above.

    I suspect Muhammad may be right that with longer burn-in of the sensor it may be that it is more sensitive to something in the air composition of the environment I am testing in. Although, I also suspect that the substances I am testing with may also be causing this.

    I'll continue to observe this behavior and if it gets really bad as before I will follow-up here on the forum in case it might help others. For the time being we are allowing these saturated values to coexist in our datasets, but we will likely be pruning the data in areas where it is constantly appearing.

    BSTRobin
    Community Moderator
    Community Moderator

    Hi S_Brohl,

    Thank for your feedback.

    You can continue to observe this behavior and give further back after test.

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